{"id":20363,"date":"2018-06-26T19:30:00","date_gmt":"2018-06-26T23:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/advertisingweek.com\/aw360\/?p=20363"},"modified":"2026-09-24T19:33:53","modified_gmt":"2026-09-24T23:33:53","slug":"how-seth-werner-turned-a-cluster-of-grapes-into-the-california-raisins","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/advertisingweek.com\/aw360\/news\/how-seth-werner-turned-a-cluster-of-grapes-into-the-california-raisins\/20363\/","title":{"rendered":"How Seth Werner Turned a Cluster of Grapes Into the California Raisins"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>By Heather Taylor<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Seth Werner still remembers the night he came up with the idea for the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.advertisingweek.com\/360-old\/article\/-6-fun-facts-about-the-california-raisins-worth-hearing-through-the-grapevine\">California Raisins<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The year was 1986. Back then, Werner was 31-years-old and had been living and working in San Francisco, California for a year at the ad agency Foote Cone Belding. Mike Koelker, famous for creating the Levi\u2019s \u201c501 Blues\u201d campaign, hired Werner on as a copywriter at FCB.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/360.advertisingweek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/california_raisins_seth_werner.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8378\" style=\"aspect-ratio:0.75;width:960px;height:auto\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The dream gig started to sour a bit. Werner quickly found himself growing bored with his workload, which was nowhere near as exciting as Koelker\u2019s work with the Levi\u2019s account. He found himself thinking back on his previous role at Marschalk in New York (an Interpublic agency that was later known as Lowe and Partners and merged with Mullen to create MullenLowe Group). Werner had worked on brands like Stroh\u2019s Beer, Citicorp, and Coca-Cola and knew he was capable of doing more. He went to Koelker to see what could be done and was assigned to work on the account for CalRAB \u2014 the California Raisin Advisory Board, better known as the <a href=\"https:\/\/calraisins.org\/\">California Raisins<\/a> today.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">CalRAB, according to Koelker, was FCB\u2019s smallest account. It was in need of creative, good work to revitalize sales for a natural fruit that was \u2014 appropriately enough \u2014 all dried up with consumers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">After receiving the assignment from Koelker, Werner spent the night at a friend\u2019s apartment. His friends, Bill and George, asked him what he was working on and Werner replied he was on the California Raisins account.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWhat can you possibly do with that?\u201d his friends asked.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI will probably do something stupid, like having a bunch of raisins dancing to the song \u2018<em>I Heard It Through the Grapevine<\/em>.\u2019\u201d Werner replied.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That was Werner\u2019s light bulb moment. \u201cI remember thinking, hey wait a second, maybe that isn\u2019t so stupid,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/360.advertisingweek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/california_raisins_2.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8376\" style=\"aspect-ratio:1.245136186770428;width:960px;height:auto\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Werner got to work on the idea the next day, sitting with FCB art director Dexter Fedor to strategize on how to execute it. As characters, the Raisins (capital R) were meant to come in a cluster because Werner pointed out that, \u201cpeople don\u2019t eat raisins one at a time.\u201d These Raisins would form both a conga line <em>and<\/em> their own singing group.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">While the Raisins didn\u2019t initially have names or a lead singer, they did have their signature tune \u201c<em>I Heard It Through the Grapevine<\/em>\u201d to serenade audiences. Out of all the musical genres to choose from, Werner picked the classic inspired by his childhood love for Motown music. He also felt it was a fit for the assignment, since raisins were once grapes, and that the song brought a sense of \u201ccool\u201d to the campaign. Which, for Werner, was kind of the point. \u201cWe were just going for cool.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As for the animation, Werner wasn\u2019t interested in drawings of characters. He wanted to do something that felt real and felt that clay animation was the best way to go. When his initial contact on the project didn\u2019t work out, Werner turned to stop-motion director <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vintonentertainment.com\/\">Will Vinton<\/a>, founder of Will Vinton Studios, with his scripts. Then and now, Vinton was a pioneer in the clay animation space and even coined (and trademarked) the word \u201cClaymation.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-4-3 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"California Raisins Commercial (1986)\" width=\"1240\" height=\"930\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/pM2OK_JaJ9I?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Werner worked alongside Will and his team to produce the first commercial, which he describes as a \u201cpainstaking\u201d process. A few days spent working in stop-motion generally produces only <a href=\"http:\/\/360.advertisingweek.com\/a-very-musical-doughboy\/\">a few seconds of film<\/a>, which was exactly what happened with the Claymation California Raisins. \u201cThere were 30 frames in a second and 30 seconds in a commercial. One frame would be photographed at a time, then the Raisin\u2019s position would be moved and you would snap another frame. Will and his team would do one scene at a time and then send it to us for our comments.\u201d Werner recalls.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/360.advertisingweek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/california_raisins_fcb.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8377\" style=\"aspect-ratio:0.7095343680709535;width:960px;height:auto\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In the months it took to shoot the single commercial, Werner worked out the musical kinks. He originally hired San Francisco-based Mark and Jeff\u2019s Jingle Company to do the music. Mark Keller provided the vocals in the first-ever spot \u201cLate Show\u201d while vocalist and producer Buddy Miles took over in the second commercial \u201cLunch Box.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As for the iconic song, Werner says it cost $250,000 a year to license. The overall budget for the CalRAB campaign was $5 million. While five million (even back then) wasn\u2019t a lot of money for a national account, Werner leapt on the opportunity to secure the popular song since it wasn\u2019t something being done in commercials at the time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Werner presented the idea not just to the client, but to the entire CalRAB board. \u201cI remember putting on white gloves and dancing as we played the music and described the spot.\u201d The vote was unanimous across the board \u2014 everyone was in favor of, and loved, the dancing Raisins.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nobody could have been prepared for what happened next when the commercial debuted in September 1986.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-4-3 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"California Raisins commercial with Workmen\" width=\"1240\" height=\"930\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/pOQO5lq6bNk?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cBasically, it went viral before there was such a thing.\u201d Phone calls poured in to TV stations and letters were written to CalRAB, FCB, and the networks from fans praising the commercial. The media hailed the success of the campaign and the ad industry recognized its greatness with a showering of awards. The California Raisins were so popular that they eventually spun off their own Saturday morning cartoon and holiday specials. They had their own LP albums and fan club. Michael Jackson is even immortalized as one, and rumor has it that he asked to do the spot for free.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But, that particular story is one that Werner has only heard through the grapevine. He left FCB after working on the first two commercials and headed to the Bloom Agency (which later became Publicis) in Dallas, Texas as the agency\u2019s Executive Creative Director and President. Now he has his own shop, the seven-year-old <a href=\"http:\/\/www.abigideagroup.com\/\">A Big Idea Group<\/a>, in Charlotte, North Carolina.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/360.advertisingweek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/california_raisins.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8375\" style=\"aspect-ratio:0.75;width:960px;height:auto\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When looking back on the surprise success of the California Raisins, Werner considers the campaign, and its soulful mascots, a stroke of good luck. \u201cI always said they got more famous than I did and I never regretted it. It was something that happened to be in the right place at the right time.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Werner does harbor some worries that many generations today wouldn\u2019t know much about the California Raisins or grasp the lasting effects that brand mascots have on consumers. He\u2019s even spoken to the board about considering a revival. \u201cI believe mascots are important because they can take an inanimate object, product, or service and humanize it to get people to like the brand. In the end, I\u2019m always preaching it\u2019s not just <em>what<\/em> your brand is, but <em>who<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By Heather Taylor Seth Werner still remembers the night he came up with the idea for the California Raisins. The year was 1986. 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