In this deeply personal episode of Engineering Brand Love, RickMilenthal and David Grzelak speak with Dr. Luan Phan, Chair of Psychiatry and Behavioral Health at The Ohio State University and creator of SOAR (State of Ohio Adversity and Resilience).
Together, they explore mental health, resilience, grief, creativity, and the power of storytelling to help people feel less alone. From SOAR’s ambitious effort to transform mental health research to deeply human stories of loss and healing, this conversation is a powerful reminder that vulnerability is not weakness. It is the foundation of empathy, leadership, creativity, and real human connection.
